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Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15600

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Judge Brown said he "would not raise taxes". The Commissioners Court is scrambling to come up with budget monies any way they can, including "trading" or "lending" employees between departments to make things work. That is commendable.
What is NOT so commendable is the new "Telecommunications Tax" that the Mayor and Commissioners Court apparently also approved and slipped in which apparently also did not make the paper? It is my understanding this new tax will apply to all telephones in the county, including cell phones.
So, I guess he did not "Raise Taxes"?.... he just "Added One"? :blush:
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15601

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Correction:
The above should read "County Judge and Commissioners Court", not "Mayor".
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15602

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Doesn't surprise me.

Tax and spend is the motto for both sides around here. The "conservatives" that get elected tax and spend just like liberals, the commissioners voted to raise county taxes already this year.
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15603

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They should live within the constraints of the budget they have to work with, same as any household does. If it's less, then live with less. Things are tough all over. Property values are down. The economy is still in free fall. Unemployment remains high. Food and fuel prices are like playing the slots in Las Vegas. Depending on projected funds from tax revenue is a dangerous game. Their response to our pain? = It's only a half cent, or, It's only a few cents. That great sucking sound of $$ out flow exceeds the amount being poured in by the (remaining) taxpayers. Can't wait to see what they come up with next to keep their boat afloat. :dry:
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15604

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what is in the budget that could be cut further or completely from the budget?
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15605

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It's going to get really bad! The local officials haven't realized it yet. If you look close enough you can see the hand writing on the wall. We're going down the tubes.
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15606

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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15607

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heartandmind wrote:
what is in the budget that could be cut further or completely from the budget?
"Ask for a half-penny, but in for a nickle or a dime".
That seems to be the game being played. The new phone tax is just another way to raise additional revenues from YOUR pocket. In 2010, $78,781.00 was raised from new property being added to the tax rolls. In the 2011 budget, they raised more property taxes than they did in 2010 by eliminating the early pay tax discount for us taxpayers and raised an additional $120,879.00. There are lots of areas that could be examined within the county budget. Take the Sheriff's Office for example. (For county expenditures by function ): The S.O budget was 41% of total, at $1,793,101.00 and the Jail at 31%, or $1,345,655.00. This is a grand total of $3,138,756.00. With this figure in mind, realize that ALL the other offices, which include the Volunteer Fire Dept., The Hopkins County Fire Dept., two Constables, DPS/Parks & Wildlife, Dispatch, Adult & Juv. Probation,Child Abuse Prevention, etc., totals $1,240,707.00. What's wrong with this picture, and this is just one area?
Don't get me wrong. I think the Sheriff's Office or ANY safety personnel is the LAST place they should go for personnel cuts. However, lets take a look and ask some questions: Why does the Sheriff's Dept. always need so many new extended cab Ford trucks every year, which costs additional monies to make them ready for law enforcement use, (i.e. added wiring, electronics, etc.), when a sedan would serve the same purpose at lesser cost? What are the excuses? That they "may have to drive in a pasture"? So, why not field a couple of pick-ups every shift and use them on these types of calls as needed? How much could be saved if half the vehicles purchased were sedans, already mfg. "Police Ready"? Also, wouldn't a sedan use less fuel? How much would that save? And why are these vehicles "assigned" to officers who take them home at the end of their shift? Not all of them even live in Hopkins County! How much extra fuel costs does that cost us, the taxpayers, every year? Can't they afford to drive themselves to and from work? This could go on, but hopefully you get the picture. Every area should be shaved close. Every expenditure questioned. A lot of Hopkins County tax payers are hurting too. A lot are un-employed, elderly or disabled, and even more are on fixed incomes, and they do not get a raise every year either. By the way, these figures were not plucked from the air. Go to www.hopkinscountytx.org. Click on the Auditors office and you'll find the budget for both 2010 and 2011. Check it out yourself. Tell your Commissioner and the Co. Judge you want the hard changes made. I don't want to see anyone to get layed-off either, but I'll bet they will do so instead of cutting some of the "sacred cow Bennies". (Now, another question: If they lay 6 or 8 people off, but hire some additional people in another area/department, does it really even count? Will that get printed? NOT!). :huh:
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15608

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Excellent points, Grasshopper. I hope the power that be read these posts.
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15609

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dave_k60 wrote:
Excellent points, Grasshopper. I hope the power that be read these posts.

Well, I hope they do read it and make some hard decision adjustments on the new budget due soon, instead of placing additional burdens on our citizens that are absolutely not necessary and can be avoided. We WILL be watching. If they refuse to listen to us our only solution is to vote them out of office so fast that the screen door doesn't hit them on their way out.

Remember this:

"I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle".
Winston Churchill
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15610

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Remember this:

"I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle".
Winston Churchill[/quote]

Ideas like this are why Barry had the Churchill statue(s) removed from the White House. :dry:
"Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." - Frederic Bastiat (19th century French economist)
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 3 weeks ago #15611

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Barry really did that??? Jeesh. Just can't get that socialism out of him.
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 2 weeks ago #15612

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Oh yes B.O. sent the Churchill bust packin' , it was in the rotunda of the W.H.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barac...back-to-Britain.html

There isn't enough people on here complaining about "the powers to be" to make much of a difference. Just think, no matter what any of us say on here how many times have any of them come on to defend themselves? Once that I can think of right of hand. So, that says a lot to me.
What they look at is votes and the fact that they got them. That tells them, from the school board to the county commissioners, the city council and on and on, that the majority of voters approve what they do. Us few peons that come on here and complain aren't enough to turn an election around. They are going to just keep going exactly how they are right now, spend, spend and spend some more. When they don't have enough to spend, tax, tax and tax some more.
I was shocked that Chris Brown unseated Cletis, but he also promised not to raise taxes and instead is just going to add some new ones to the already growing list. In a time when most everyone has to do without, try and figure out how to make ends meet, they are taking more.
So I want to give a BIG Thanks to all those who keep these liberal Dems and RINO's in office. One day we may get some 'real' conservatives in office, til then, you get exactly what you vote for.

EDIT: Oh yea, they also love to brag about how much state and federal money they are getting, what people need to realize is that is our tax dollars too. It's NOT FREE MONEY!!!!
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 2 weeks ago #15613

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Just curious. Since when is it wrong to return a loan to it's rightful owners? The bust of Winston Churchill was a LOAN to President GW Bush from Tony Blair. It was to show solidarity between Britain and the U.S.A after 9/11. It was removed BEFORE President Obama was inaugurated. President Obama wanted to put his own mark, as is his right, on the Oval Office and he chose a bust of Abraham Lincoln. Point is, a loan is a loan. Loans are meant to be returned.

I have no comment on the County Budget.
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Re: Balanced County Budget? New Tax? 3 years 2 weeks ago #15615

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SmallTownGal wrote:
Just curious. Since when is it wrong to return a loan to it's rightful owners? The bust of Winston Churchill was a LOAN to President GW Bush from Tony Blair. It was to show solidarity between Britain and the U.S.A after 9/11. It was removed BEFORE President Obama was inaugurated. President Obama wanted to put his own mark, as is his right, on the Oval Office and he chose a bust of Abraham Lincoln. Point is, a loan is a loan. Loans are meant to be returned.

I have no comment on the County Budget.

I see several things grossly wrong with it. Number one, it was an affront to our most important ally in Europe. Secondly, it was an insult to the memory one of the world's greatest men/leaders of the twentieth century (and his family). Too bad it wasn't a bust of Chairman Mao, BO could have put it on his desk.

Number three, the LOAN could have been moved to the Smithsonian or similar location where the rest of us could have enjoyed it.

Number four, if it was before the inauguration, wouldn't he have better things to do than worry about the White House décor? Here's an idea: do background checks on your cabinet appointees.

And lastly, if he likes returning loans, he needs to get after it. China is waiting.
"Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." - Frederic Bastiat (19th century French economist)
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