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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13163

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The problem I am having is....

I want my kid to earn the privilege to use the phone, internet, and so forth. I ground my child and block her internet use, what happens? She goes to school and they let her, or have no prevention, for her to get on the net. What use is it when you tell your kid that they can't use the internet, say, until their grades improve a little, when the school will allow them to use it anyway. Then when you try and get the school to stop letting them on the internet they act like parents don't have any say in it. As it was said in a previous post, "it's their right."

Parents are losing their rights to parent to the school district and "know-it-all" teachers who think they are better parents than the kids parents. I should have taken advantage of the high schools "failing grade" and moved her.
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13164

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I guess the majority of parents have expected the school and the teachers to raise their kids for so long that the schools and teachers have forgotten that the job of raising their kids is the parents responsibility.
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13165

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Sniper, I congratulate you on being seriously interested in your child's behaviour in and out of school. Our schools could certainly use more parents like you who really care about their kids.

Too many parents today are too busy with their own agendas to pay attention to their kids. It is also very sad that there are so many kids who are raising themselves because of single-parent households where mom or dad has to work nights, or those choose to ignore their responsibility for their kids by escaping into the fog of drugs or alcohol. Those children usually act up in class or torment classmates because they do not get the attention they need at home. Then, the whole class suffers as those kids usurp the teacher's time.
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13172

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sniper101 wrote:
but it is their right

Where is it stated that kids have a "right" to post on facebook, myspace, or anywhere. It's more a "privilege" than a "right." I would dare say that any kid having a cell phone, ipod, or other device is a "privilege" and not a "right."

Next thing they will be saying that health care is a "right." Oh wait, they already are.

Ok, Ok...maybe "right" wasn't the right word. Kids post all kinds of things and we as parents should be monitoring...

I do have a question though...why were all these parents answering or acknowledging the texts they were getting from their children while they were at work?????

Different times....
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13174

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it's simple software change to block certain sites or certain types of sites. a lot of employers do that - they block any site that it's filters deem as sexual, adult, social or any number of words on a list. seems to me that the school district should maybe change some of it's filters to block social networking sites.
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13175

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They can block those sites on the school computers, but they can't block the kids from getting on facebook, myspace, twitter, etc on their phones. I'm pretty sure the school district already blocks facebook from their network, but with 75% of phones being able to get internet, they really cant monitor or limit that.
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13178

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i guess i need to update my phone....i chose not to allow access to the internet on my phone due to costs. i'm surprised that so many teens have that capability on their phones considering how expensive it is. not to mention the cost of the phones that do that like the iphone, etc.

didn't i read elsewhere on this website that the use of the phones during class was prohibited?
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13179

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Alot of carriers now require you to have a data plan if you buy a certain phone, and you can get blackberrys and like phones for cheap now, $50-$100, and verizon even runs the new palm pre for $49, and if you buy one you get one free. Unlimited data usage is available on most plans for $20/month now...I have 4 phones on my plan, all 4 have unlimited for the $20, so its really not that expensive anymore.

The school does say that cell phone usage is prohibited, but kids are too sneaky, most of them can text without even taking the phone out of their pocket or looking at the keys, and there's no way for a teacher to teach class and monitor to make sure students aren't using their phones...
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13180

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Outside of texting and using it as a phone, the iPod Touch can do the same thing a cell phone, Crackberry (Blackberry) and iPhone can do and you can connect to the internet for free if you can find an open WiFi connection.
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13181

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well, i guess if you have more than one phone on your bill then the $20 might make sense...but if you've just got one or maybe 2, then not so much. not such a great deal, know what i mean?

can the phones not be programmed (i'm asking out of ignorance here) to block certain sites? like if you didn't want your kid to access, say facebook, on the phone, could you either tell the service (verizon, at&t etc) to block sites, or on the phone itself?

another question - could the wifi connection at the schools be more limited? like maybe only in the library (space limitation) or by number of connections? then the school could see who's connected when - via a license server? if the student that's connected via their phone, then the school'd know it, especially if the student were logged on during non-essential (specific classtime) hours. another thing we've got here is that the wifi doesn't work unless you've got a specific piece of hardware and software loaded - so that nullifies any access to the internet on company property from by non-approved computers (like phones). i know many phones offer the internet service with the phone service so that wouldn't necessarily work to eliminate web browsing via phones.

that may alleviate the internet connectivity issues - but there's stil the texting. jeez, i hate texting. i've only gotten a handful of worthwhile texts in the last decade (?). so to me, texting is a total waste of money, time & energy. i know some folks swear by it, but i'm of the mind, just pick up the dang phone and CALL ME - that way if I've got more questions they can be addressed immediately in a more timely fashion.

i'm thinking the most expedient, low cost method is for the parent not to let junior/juniorette go to school with the phone in their posession. there would stll be methods of contacting your child (via the office) in case of dire emergency, and for the child to contact you. the school has apparantly a rule against the use of these devices during classroom time - so what's the punishment if a student is discovered using their device during class time? and who's really hurt when that happens?
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13190

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Yes, there is both software to block cell phones internet site access as well as limit the access to the internet over the school's WiFi. The question of limiting the internet access at school (as well as public) libraries gets brought up all of the time. Every time a kid gets caught on a porn site at school or some dude is doing so at the library, it seems to spring up. It always gets shot down for reasons that can be debated on another thread if we feel so urged to do so...

I mentioned that I do let my kids bring their cell phones to school. You are right that they can be contacted through the school office during school, and of course that is what I do. However, if my son is walking home or riding the bus, I want him to have that added security. As I said, it has already saved him from a child predator once. I would fight the school tooth and nail to allow him to have it. Perhaps they could say it must be kept in the office or in his locker, that would be fine. As long as the unwritten rule is, "if I don't see i I won't take it away" he will continue to have it in the bottom of his bag.
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 3 months ago #13207

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Well,as I see it : emergency access is good.What happens if the zombie apocalypse strikes? :laugh:
On the other hand,kids are always going to think they are smarter than their parents and it is our job to let them know they aren't. There are so many ways to track what they are doing (kinda scary too) that is reasonable to think we can shut off usage during certain times,etc. I just wish that instead of messing around with networking all day,they would pick up a book and read for pleasure....shocking I know :kiss:
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 2 months ago #13313

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Now I hear that SSHS has changed what ever they needed to change so that iPods, blackberries, iPhone etc. can't log onto the internet. Makes me wonder if someone actually read the thread and brought the gripe to someone's attention...

The thing about schools needing a signed form allowing children to use the internet is crap. If a parent doesn't sign it, giving consent they get badgered until they do sign it. One mother mentioned to me that she sent the form back 3 times when her son was in the 4th grade saying "There's no reason he can't 'look up information' in books. He doesn't need to be online." and his teacher sent the form back repeatedly to be signed in favor of allowing the child to use the internet. She said "I felt bullied."
That is rediuclous to me. I remember going to the library to use referrence books, what ever happened to those? :unsure:
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 2 months ago #13315

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Those reference books are outdated just like the blackboards are. New and better technology has replaced them. I don't know if all the classes are the same, but some classes at SSHS, the teachers teach from the computer and not a text book, from a computer screen and not a blackboard. I don't know how the school can block the internet access from an iphone or blackberry if it is part of the phone plan. Ipods, however, do have to connect through a wireless network so that is understandable they could block those. How many of you passed notes during class? Is the texting really any different?
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Re:Gas leak, cell phones and Facebook. 4 years 2 months ago #13316

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How many of you passed notes during class? Is the texting really any different?[/quote]
Great point. I am not sure what the big fuss is about. Parents need to set the rules for the use of the phone and not depend on SSISD. If your kid is not using it as you intended, take it away.
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